Are you attractive?

Paul in Cannon Beach

All this blubbering about Andrew Savage from Survivor reminded me of something that I heard a few years ago. They say that a person's level of attractiveness is based on how symmetrical their face is. If your face is very symmetrical, you are generally considered "attractive" by society.

Of course, I am talking about physical attractiveness. Some people say "that person is very attractive" and what they mean is that the person has a charming personality or charisma.

Physically, however, attractiveness is simply symmetry. If you disagree, don't get bent out of shape over it.

Paul in Cannon Beach

ray a

You're not being fair, Paul. Some of us who already posted our picture on the forum can't answer your question in the positive because everybody knows we aren't. OK, I'm really just speaking for myself, but using the plural so I don't feel so bad. And some might be scared to post their picture now.

But, that said, I have heard about the symmetry theory before and there probably is some truth to it.

rad

I saw something like that on TV and they used a plastic mask with specific dimensions for the distance between the facial features and was supposed to measure attractiveness. When placed over a photo of a person generally thought to be attractive, the dimensions matched. When placed over someone not so attractive, the fit was off. It was very enlightening and perhaps an insight into an innate preference for symetry and order.

And to answer your question - some think so even though my eyes are not the same shape, so go figure.

Don D

Actually I only have one eye, right in the center of my head. For my Forum Foto, I colored another one on my forehead with my wife's eyeliner thing. But, the one I have is symetrical. My toes are fairly symetrical. Only one foot has a couple more, but I try to keep them moving so you won't notice. Ray, can you take Paul somewhere and get him some medication? I know you have sources in NYC.

ray a

Well, my novocaine has worn off and I don't have any more. And I haven't been in NYC since about 1968. BTW Don, the work "symmetrical", has very nice symmetry when spelled with 2 "m's". But, maybe your spelling is due to having just one eye.

Don D

I sometimes have trouble with three syllable words. I do, However, spell the word WORD without a 'k'. x:-)

ray a

Oh man, you got me. It's a novocaine thing. My brain is still numb.

marc

Perhaps the novocaine effects your perception of symmetry, and the one eye thing sure make depth perception difficult. I generally have two of almost everything I am supposed to, mostly located near the appropriate place and I only had to pay my photo stand-in a couple of bucks.

HRQ

I saw a similar article in Readers Digest. They used Denzel Washington as an example of someone whose features are symetrical, therefore considered attractive by most.

I don't watch Survisor, so I have no idea whether or not Andrew Savage is attractive, however, Spongebob Squarepants, Bob the Builder, Jimmy Neutron, Jackie Chan, and that kid from Pokemon (all shows I watch regularly with my kids) all have quite symetrically drawn features and I don't find any of them attractive...

Parabeagle

My Spongebob Squarepants necktie is pretty attractive. x:-)

HRQ

I am stunned by your necktie. x:D

HRQ

I should add that my three year old wears Spongebob undies, which are also stunning.

Parabeagle

Well, I just have the necktie. No Spongebob boxers or anything like that. But I'm glad you're stunned by my tie. I'll keep my promise and be stunned by your beauty when you post your picture. x:D

HRQ

I'm waiting for an acceptable hair day. I've been suffering Hair Trauma (a real condition for us "girls") and am in dire need of a cut.

For now, you can be stunned by the emoticon who best resembles me: x:D

ray a

To paraphrase Beagle, do you two need to take this conversation off-line?

Don D

I'm saaayinnn. Beagle has become the most obsteperous flirt. No wonder his wife ran him off.

ray a

Not sure about the obstreperous part, but he certainly isn't abstemious. Be careful, HRQ may become vituperative.

Don D

Hope you don't slam that fat dictionary on your thumb. You'll be whining next week if you do. x:-)

ray a

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 11-08-03 AT 04:46PM (CST)[/font][p]Computer is upstairs, dictionary is downstairs. Those were right off the top of my head. I like the ocassional obfuscation of multi-syllabic works.... er, I mean words.

To bring this back on topic, do you find verbosity attractive?

Don D

About as attractive as a steatopygia afflicted elocutionist.

ray a

A public speaker with a big butt?

Hey, those left coast'ers like to sit around the camp fire wearing Birkenstocks drinking reheated Starbucks coffee and singing songs made popular by now superannuated folk singers then jumping up and participating in a big group hug fest while us refined easterners sharpen our lexical skills.

HRgalME

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 11-10-03 AT 10:22AM (CST)[/font][p]I would sure hate to play you guys in scrabble! I had to look up half of those words. Sigh...

Cyndy

HRGirl

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 11-10-03 AT 10:24AM (CST)[/font][p]Parabeagle is conveniently forgetting about his Sponge Bob thong! :~~

Parabeagle

The high velocity verbosity is flyin' now, I can see that!

How did you know about the Spongebob thong, HRQ?

Whatever

And, of course, do the NY Times puzzle (particularly on Sunday) with a pen.

HRGirl

I will never tell Parabeagle!! You will never make me talk...I saw it in a magazine. Its up to you to tell them which one!!! AHAHAHA!! I think maybe it was the swimsuit issue of Sports Illustrated for Women.

ray a

HRGirl, you have Beagle so excited over his thong thingies that he is confusing you with HRQ.

Beagle, you are quite the stud. I think you have just inherited the "evil twin" moniker.

Parabeagle

HRQ, HRGirl, HRInserthandlehere, they all start with HR. Besides, when I replied to the post it was oh-dark-thirty in the morning and I hadn't had my coffee yet. Gimme a break, Ray. You're still the evil twin around here. I'm pure as the driven snow. x:-)

mwild31

Geez, gone a day & Parabeagle's going on and on about his spongebob thong thing & Ray's egg'n him on. Weird, very weird.

Paul - As one of the folks that thought from the beginning that Andrew was definite 'eye candy' I have to say that initially it is physical beauty that catches my attention. However, over time, just as over the episodes, the idea that beauty can fade I think is directly linked to the person's personality & leadership/style. Over the episodes, Andrew became less and less attractive based on his decision making process & choice of words & choice of colleagues. Conversely, Rupert, for his loyalty displayed so far, comes out looking like a prince. Decidedly not attractive on first, second (okay third and fourth too x;-)) glance, but becomes highly attractive after you see what he's made of. Once again showing me that too much can be made of first impressions & it's the 'walk' I'm more interested in than the 'talk'.

ray a

That's OK Beagle, you did bring some levity to a frustrating and busy morning. Besides, it is fun watching you get the women mixed up. And I think we both have that evil streak.

HRQ

And don't be draggin' me into the whole thong debacle. Our Friday banter was very G rated. We only discussed Parabeagle's Spongebob tie and my son's Spongebob undies, and how stunning they are. I am stunned by my children every time I look into their huge eyes.

I was in the fetal position on my couch all day saturday, intense side ache, feverish, vomiting, the whole bit(turned out to be gallstones - have to schedule surgery), and my two sweet little babies got in my face and said "are you going to be OK, mommy? You will be OK, mommy. Are you a little bit sick, mommy? I'm sick too mommy." They made the whole thing more bearable.

But I think I would find a Spongebob thong pretty humorous, if not stunning. Thongs on men scare me.