Fuel shortage

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 08-25-03 AT 11:46AM (CST)[/font][p]So about a week ago, a 46-year-old gas pipeline between Tucson and Phoenix ruptured, leaving the Phoenix metropolitan area - now the fifth largest city in the country - with very little fuel.

The pipeline has been fixed, but will take another two or three weeks to test, repressurize, etc., etc., etc. Today, there is no premium, no mid-grade, just unleaded. As soon as a station gets some, the word gets out and it is GONE. The lines are tremendous, the prices even more so.

Our public transportation is nonexistant, the Valley is so spread out that carpools are tough to coordinate (our sr. hr specialist drives 37 miles one way.) Employees can't afford to drive to work - so now guess whose problem this is! The GM wants me to have department managers try to work around people's schedules so they are on four 10s - 850 employees working 7/24 and we need to reschedule at the drop of a hat. Yeah, that's happening.

It's Monday, I have my son in from out of town, the HR Director took the day off, so my half day is out the window. Yes, yes, I'm whining.


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  • Awwww... poor Leslie. Too bad you don't have a state-of-the-art mass transit system like Portland (not to mention an urban growth boundary so you aren't all "spread out"). Seriously, though, I feel for you. Even though our gas is still a relatiely inexpensive (by your recent standards) $1.60 and change. x;-)
  • Would you like cheese with that WHINE, Leslie? How about a footrub?
  • Leslie - I just heard about the problem in AZ today - I'm so sorry!
  • Would it help if I came out and carried you across the hot pavement, again?
  • Yep, we gots no gas. But our leader Gov. Napolitano says that it is not a crisis only a problem. Todays paper said to expect this to last 3 or 4 more weeks. At one gas station, a guy in a SUV filled up his guzzler and then proceeded to fill up the boat he was towing. I don't expect to see him soon.

    I went through the gas crisis in the east in the 70's. Once a lifetime is enough. I have employees who slept in their cars at the pumps so they could get gas to come to work. Some stations are only allowing $10. worth at $2.59 a gallon. The pumps are so slow that the gas dribbles into the tank and takes forever to get even $10. Its hot, 109, 45 minutes to an hour on line, not a pretty picture.
  • I still think you ladies have a conspiracy going to keep me out of AZ next week.
  • Gosh Ray, forgot all about that. But ye of little faith, call your daughter. If she's not on line waiting to fill up or on the side of the road with an empty tank, maybe she'll answer the phone.

    However, we are not exagerating. It is really bad out there. Gas station after gas station with orange cones blocking the driveways or yellow tape keeping you away from the gas pumps. On the way home last night, I saw a line of cars following a tank truck. At a red light, the driver got out and taped a sign on the back of his truck. It read, I'm empty. Believe me, we didn't plan it.
  • I just heard about this for the first time last night. My gosh if it goes on another couple weeks, what are folks going to do?
  • I guess my question would be - Wouldn't this be considered gouging ? We went through something like this after 9/11 - many gas station got into legal trouble for hicking prices in a time of crisis. Just a thought.

    I really feel for you guys out there, having lived in Arizona and dealing with the heat, traffic and gas stations on a good day was bad enough !!!
  • Guess what Tish, AZ has NO law against gas gouging. Imagine that. To add to the burden, AZ uses a special blend in the summer to help reduce the "brown cloud". This blend is also causing the shortage because those supplies are low. You would think that the Governor would try to get this rule temporarily relaxed. Duh.
  • Wow, I saw this on the news this morning. The report (this morning) said that most gas prices are around $4.00 now.

    I hope you all can hang in there for a few more weeks. Maybe they'll get it done quicker than they think.

    Zanne
  • It's getting crazy. The baseball bats, knives, and Glocs are coming out.

    I actually have it easy. The tribe I work for also has a convenience store/gas station on the reservation. They are not selling any gas they get to the public - using it to keep the sand, gravel, and concrete ops going, all the government, entities business and emergency vehicles running. Plus, each employee is getting a coupon to purchase 15 gallons of gas each week this continues - and only at $1.999 a gallon. That's not bad comparatively speaking.

    However, my employees at the gas station are verbally getting beat up by the public following the tanker into the station only to be greeted by a sign that says we aren't selling gas to the public.

    And they say this is going to go on two or three more weeks. What a joke.
  • I've been skipping the HR de har har section for the past few weeks - have been just a bit behind! (Taking a week off didn't help, I guess)

    I drive 67 miles a day, round trip. That doesn't include days I visit our 17 locations. I realized the other day that based on current gas prices, it costs me over $8 per day just to go to work.

    I live on the other side of the valley from Leslie, and our gas problem (the Gov. clearly stated "it's not a crisis, it's a problem!") isn't quite as bad. My husband found a gas station near us where if he goes there at 4AM, he can get gas and not wait in line for more than a few minutes.

    Gotta love a man who is willing to fill your gas tank at 4AM so you don't have to wait in line during hot daytime hours!
  • Come on down to Casa Grande. 30 miles south of Chandler, no lines, $1.68 a gallon.

    When I filled up yesterday, and the guy next to me kept filling up gas containers the whole time I was filling up my car. I said to him "looks like you're from Phoenix". He gave me the sarcastic smile and said "how did you guess".

    Rob
  • If this thing doesn't get resolved soon, you may have lots of company Rob!

    P.S. what are you guys doing highjacking our tankers!
  • Since we are halfway between Phoenix and Tucson, I assume that our fuel is coming from Tucson, and we don't have to use that special summer time blend you have anyway.

    Sounds like the pipline will be fixed soon anyway (they are making to much money off of this to fix it to fast).

    Rob
  • The whole gas thing is effecting the price of gas in CA too. Our prices have jumped about 50 cents within the past week and the news says it's due to CA shipping more gas out to AZ. I'm sure the gas folks will use any excuse though. We are paying about 2.20 right now in Southern CA. I thought that was a lot until I read this thread. Yikes!
  • Here it is Monday morning, one week later and some stations are still closed. Passed by one that had gas for $2.99 a gallon. Lucky me.

    The morning paper has an article about remembering the stations that gouged you. You can bet a lot of people will not be filling up there.

    One of my employees was so upset about his station raising the prices so much that he went up to the manager and told him , "Shame on you! I have been coming here several years but I will take my business elsewhere." Didn't seem to bother the station manager but the employee felt better.
  • Believe it or not, gas prices are going up in Wisconsin and they are blaming it on Arizona and the blackout on the east coast. It went from 1.599 to 1.869 in just 10 days. There is a conspiracy! Our gas doesn't come from either the east coast or Arizona.
  • Cheapest I seen in days was $2.04 last night at an AM/PM. Everyone else is $2.10 or better. And we're back up to 80 percent capacity. The prices jumped 40 - 60 - 80 cents over night. Think they'll drop back down that fast?!?!?
  • >Cheapest I seen in days was $2.04 last night at an AM/PM. Everyone
    >else is $2.10 or better. And we're back up to 80 percent capacity.
    >The prices jumped 40 - 60 - 80 cents over night. Think they'll drop
    >back down that fast?!?!?


    You know they never do. . .
  • Live in Minnesota, having the same problem as Mentel - gas prices hicked from 1.48 to 1.89 due to power outage and Tucson problems. I live in a high tourist area so it's not surprising that we are seeing a hick - it always happens around a holiday weekend . .
  • Just filled up this morning and paid $1.77. A few weeks ago, I was paying $1.48 or so.............. what a rip! I'm in Ma. and this just crept up on us too...........
  • Prices jump up in MS at the drop of a hat. One day they'll be 1.37 and the next they might average 1.64. No rationale. Often the same distributer (jobber) will own or service a Texaco right across the street from an Exxon and there will be 24 cents difference, same tanker, same gas. Last week or so if you were to ask a pumper or jobber to explain the sudden increases, he might say, "Ya know, one nem pipelines busted out somewhere's around Arizona or Colorado and that costs us more ya know", knowing full well there ain't no way in hell that pipeline affects his supply chain. We have a state milk and egg board that controls those prices but it seems the gas price is uncontrolled/unregulated.
  • We just went from a Toyota corolla to a Ford Explorer that we can barely afford anyway and gas prices are going up here too!
    AARGH!
  • [font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 08-26-03 AT 12:59PM (CST)[/font][p]You should have planned ahead Deez. You could have held on to the Toyota, folded the seats down flat in the Explorer, run the Toyota up inside it on a ramp and when you got to where you were going in the 'BIG RIDE' you could take the Toyota out and run it around town. Sorta like those Winnegagos that tow around a Jeep.
    (EDIT: nothing against owners of them, but that's supposed to be Winnebagos)
  • Why didn't I think of that?
  • I just filled up last night & it was $2.19 - this is in Washington State! Up here they are blaming the increases on the pipeline break in Arizona & the blackout in the East. The question is, are we all so interconnected that crummy circumstances in one state or region have a true domino effect on those areas not affected? Or, is it a conspiracy to price gouge?
  • Holy mackeral, what's happening? Reading all these posts from all over the country certainly is making me suspicious. How can a broken pipeline in Tucson raise the price of gas in Florida??

    Because we have been so conditioned with the bovine instinct, the gas buffoons know we will adapt to this situation too. Buffoons? No, they are highly skilled crooks that count on our stupidity and dependence to line their pockets.

    Ok, I feel better now.
  • Maybe they are also counting on all those who are buying vehicles with low mileage and big tanks. For those of us who are old enough to remember when there really was a gas shortage, what happened to the necessity of having fuel efficient cars. Take it back, I know the answer--the fuel companies have lobbyists(who probably get down on their knees every morning to bless the guy who came up with the SUV). $$$
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