I'm rollin' McCain

Paul in Cannon Beach

Ok, I have pretty much decided. Unless he picks Satan as his running mate, I am supporting McCain.

He is closer to me ideologically than the other two. When he talks, he strikes me as a decent person who struggles to be a politician instead of the reverse (Hillary). I like that he is an independent thinker and doesn't always take the party line.

Obama's inexperience and his views on abortion are troubling to me. Over the weekend he equated having a baby as "punishment" for a teen who makes a mistake. I think "consequence" is a better word and last time I checked there are many couples who can't have children and would resent Obama's terminology. A child is never a punishment.

So I am going with Big Mac.

ray a

Sent to me by a liberal friend.

I have the distinguished honor of being on the committee to
raise $5,000,000 for a monument of Hillary R. Clinton.

We originally wanted to put her on Mt. Rushmore until we
discovered there was not enough room for two more faces.

We then decided to erect a statue of Hillary in the Washington,
D.C. Hall Of Fame. We were in a quandary as to where the statue should be
placed.

It was not proper to place it beside the statue of George Washington, who
never told a lie, or beside her husband William J. Clinton, who never told
the truth, since Hillary could never tell the difference.

We finally decided to place it beside Christopher Columbus, the
greatest Democrat of them all. He left not knowing where he was going,
and when he got there he did not know where he was. He returned not
knowing where he had been, and did it all on someone else's money.

Thank you,
Hillary R. Clinton Monument Committee

P. S. The Committee has raised $1.35 so far.

Paul in Cannon Beach

Im running that by Snopes...

ray a

I heard about a new service comparable to Snopes called Scopes. Q tells me it is more reliable.

HRQ

And minty fresh.

Paul in Cannon Beach

Where is ACU Frank? I want to hear from my token liberal friend. I think he is being quiet because he doesnt want to pick Obama OR Hillary.

ACU Frank

Either is an improvement over what we've got.

So is McCain, for that matter. Heck, so is Paul.

Paul in Cannon Beach

President Paul... thats got a nice ring. My past would not withstand the scrutiny our presidential candidates must endure unfortunately.

But don't think your ambivalent answer went unnoticed.

neveradull

first pb now pp? What a splash that will make on the forum.

Paul in Cannon Beach

Someday you won't have old Paul to kick around and then you'll be sorry.

I think.

HRQ

When I do occasionally kick you around, I apologize shortly after, or at least say something nice to make up for it. Does that count?

Paul in Cannon Beach

No. You are dead to me.

HRQ

Well dang. I am as nice as pie every day. I say one snarky little thing, was clearly playing around, and now you don't want to be my friend any more. Fine. Everyone is invited to my party except for Paul.

ritaanz

Pb, when are you starting your new endeavor? Sounds right up your alley. You can caddy as well as bait the lines. No one will bother you.

Paul in Cannon Beach

The financing fell through due to liability issues.

Just for the record, I am not mad at Q nor is she "dead" to me. That's just me being me.

Q is probably my second favorite person on this forum.

joannie

And your favorite person on this forum would be yourself, right?

ritaanz

Nah. Me .

Paul in Cannon Beach

Im not saying.

ray a

If I were a betting man, I'd say his favorite is Ritaanz.

Paul in Cannon Beach

Technically, she is #1 on a list of mine. Not saying what list though.

Paul in Cannon Beach

Obama said this week:

"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them, it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."


I am glad I am not from the Midwest. They sound like a bunch of dumb backwards angry hicks.

ray a

And interesting he makes religion sound bad, like a disease, especially after the Wright wrong.

Paul in Cannon Beach

"Religion or guns" was what he said. Kind of sounds like a cool name for rock band.

I am sure there are people who are just like what Obama described but you'd think the small towns of the midwest were spilling over with them to hear him talk.

Hopefully someone from the Midwest on this forum will put down their guns and Bible long enough to post a response.

ACU Frank

It's worse in some areas, better in others... but he's got a pretty accurate view of the small town frustration common in this area.

Paul in Cannon Beach

"You go into these inner cities and, like a lot areas of Detroit the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them, it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to conspiracies and guns or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-government sentiment or anti-responsibility sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Would that be a fair statement?

HRQ

Detroit is considered to be "midwest?" I guess anything not on an actual coast or ends up in that catch-all description.

Far as I can tell, my friends and family in Omaha, which is pretty much dead center of the country, have not become bitter, conspiracy-clinging gun toters. They just swill more scotch and get back to work.

ray a

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Paul in Cannon Beach

The second quote wasn't Obama's. It was mine. I was trying to draw a parrallel between what he said and what someone could say about other parts of the country (and probably be accused of being a rascist).

Alicia Keys has apparently said that "gangsta rap" was invented to encourage violence in the ghettoes.

How does the government benefit from keeping the African American community in turmoil? I dont get it.

Personally, I find our government too inept to pull of the conspiracies that are spread on the internet.

Paul in Cannon Beach

Do you hear that whirring sound? That's the sound of Obama frantically backpedaling from his comments.

Apparently they were made at a private fundraiser in California. Perhaps he thought they would never reach the Bible thumpin, pistol packin ears of angry Midwesterners.

ACU Frank

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 04-13-08 AT 09:03PM (CST)[/font][br][br]I guess you have a better "finger on the pulse" of midwesterners than I do, Paul. I don't hear anyone in this area even talking about these comments. Of course, most of us here are pretty much ignoring the campaign until it gets closer to nomination time. There's not much that's going to be said in the next few months that we haven't already heard.

If I read the other comments on Obama's remarks correctly, it sounds like you and Hillary are in lockstep. I knew you would come around!

Paul in Cannon Beach

Admittedly, I am a political junkie and so its a big story on the Sunday news, political blogs, etc.

Do I sound like Hillary? Its true she is making political hay out of this. Its a fairly significant misstep on Obama's part, dont you think? Especially with the Pennsylvania primary coming up.

Personally, I think he felt like he was in a private setting talking to like minded people who would agree with sentiments like this and he let down his guard a bit. I am not sure he really believes his own statement. At the very least, he was pandering and you know how I feel about that...