JANE
Don D
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Man-O-Man. I thought Hillary and Martha exemplified extreme arrogance; but, Jane Fonda Turner puts them both in the shade. Imagine these three women, all sitting at a table together, signing books.
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She has pretended to apologize for that this week but only in order to sell her book. She now says she betrayed our servicemen and women by doing that. Glad she finally sobered up and concluded that 35 years late. Had anybody in uniform done that, they would have been guilty of treason and shot.
There were acceptable and honorable ways, I'm sure, to show disagreement and even to protest. 'Get over it' indeed.
Who gives a rat's raincoat about her days of binging and purging, lining up other women to bring into her bedroom for threesomes, multiple boob jobs, failed marriages, being a traitor and lesbian tendencies. OH MY GOD; I JUST HELPED HER SELL HER BOOK!!
Intellect and business savvy should not be bad things. If they were male, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
JMHO
As with the race card, some are quick to play the sex card as a means of halting the conversation. x:-)
denise: What the hell does her being a woman have to do with this topic???
And don't forget:
"To err is human, to forgive is divine"
The womens' libbers and Rosie O'Donnell say that Jane Fonda was the product of three overbearing and misguided men and her behaviors were subconsciously motivated by the greed and misdeeds of those men. Father Henry Fonda, husband Ted Turner and the guy who was the California congressman...forget his name. I would expect that take on her behavior.
She said how she was not loved by her dad. I believe a person can use that excuse until about the age of 25. After 25 a person is old enough to make their own way. Jane is over 60, and she picked the men in her life.
She said the picture she took in the middle of a machine gun nest was accidental. She just wandered into this area and sat down and someone took the picture. (Could anyone just wander into a machine gun nest, smile, and let someone take your picture???)
Jane has the unique distinction of being the one and only American (term used loosely here)to ever stumble into an enemy machine gun nest and survive. Imagine that.
I agree that there are other ways of protesting a war without joining the enemy. That is treason no matter how you look at it.
On the other hand, she felt her trips there were justified. She felt getting on the enemy's radio to tell our troups to consider giving up and leaving was justified. Everything else but the gun incident was justified in her opinion.
Others who have done less to undermine our troups have been tried and convicted for betraying our country. We tried to go after Tokyo Rose after WWII (for demoralizing our troups via radio). And what child doesn't learn about Benedict Arnold. Why did they let Jane get away with it? She was worse than Rose!
I support her right to say anything she wants here, but to go over there and hurt our troups that way! That is a true betrayal.
My husband is a Vietnam Vet and has shared with me some of the horrors he faced there. Like any other war veteran, he came home a changed man.
When my husband finally arrived home he was called a traitor and spit upon by anti-war protestors. Think how that felt? That one incident was as bad or worse than anything he went through over there. But Jane can sit there and tell us how her actions were justified.
We would like to 'get over it' and put it behind us. If she was really sorry and made an effort to repair the damage, we could. But since she keeps going on the air for various reasons (like selling a book) and telling us her betrayal was justified, it makes it impossible to 'get over it'.
Linda
NaeNae, you nailed it too. The reason she declares that the photo op was dumb and regrets it and hates that she did that is because she can never do anything about the existence of the photo. It's out there and it's haunting to most every American, including her, maybe. She can deny most everything else she did or spin it this way or that, but the photo, that wondrous and lasting photo, will live in infamy, as someone else said.
"Jane Fonda, nicknamed Hanoi Jane by an outraged nation for posing on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun that fired at American aircraft, says that the photo-opportunity was a 'betrayal' of her country. Thirty-three years after the photograph was taken in a gun pit outside the North Vietnamese capital, Fonda regrets her treachery towards 'the country that gave me privilege.' Fonda made those comments while appearing with Iraqi insurgents in an undisclosed location over the weekend.
"'The Vietnam photograph amounted to the largest lapse of judgment that I can even imagine,' said Fonda as she smiled and held up rocket propelled grenades with the Iraqi insurgents who had just finished attacking an American military convoy. After posing with the insurgents, Fonda went to the Ahkmed and Noble bookstore in Fallujah where she signed copies of her new autobiography, 'Jane Fonda: Empty Apologies.'"
(edit): I'll save some of my views on the Vietnam War for another time.
Linda