Performance in the rest room?

scottorr

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 07-24-03 AT 03:26PM (CST)[/font][p]This is a serious issue but I found it a little funny. A male ee came to my office to let me know that while he was in the rest room, he thinks a co-worker may have been doing the deed with himself. He explained in a little more detail that I wont get into but he didn't wait to see who came out of the stahl. I asked what he thought I should do. He didn't have a reply. Has anyone else had to deal with such an issue? I am certainly not going to install cameras in the rest rooms. Is no action the best action on this subject? I told the ee to get a grip!

Parabeagle

What policy was violated? I would not touch this one with a ten foot pole (no pun intended).

Leslie

Found 'em in phone booths and on the mezanine, but never in a stall by themselves!

HRQ

Don't know who was in the stall? Not sure what to tell you.

I can tell you, however, that in my hospitality days, we found people in the glass elevators, jacuzzi, suite balconies, even in the cars in the parking lot. (We had a great view from the fifth floor restaurant - apparently the "car lovers" didn't realize this!) The restaurant, by the way, also provided a great view of various employees carting "surplus" hotel property to their personal vehicles.

Also had to term a housekeeper once for "servicing" guests in the guest laundry room. Apparently her "customers" paid better than we did!

Parabeagle

So you're a fellow hospitality HR type, huh? I must admit, I haven't had the, uh, pleasure of observing some of the "transgressions" you have, but then I've only been in the hospitality field for about three years. Or, maybe we just have a bunch of boring employees and guests. Or, they all straighten up when I come out to the property. Or all of the above.

HRQ

I worked at a medium sized hotel for 12 years, (6 years in HR) then moved on to HR Diretor at the corp office of a childcare company 2 years ago.

Without divulging our dirty laundry, I can tell you both industries have equally entertaining "insider" stories. No "transgressions" in the preschools as far as I know, though. We frown on this. Well, we frowned on it at the hotel too!

Another hotel story: I was walking through the parking lot toward the rear entrance of the building. A guest was standing in the doorway of the balcony (glass arcadia doors) wearing nothing. Nada. I looked up and noticed him, and he did not budge. Looked right back at me. Perhaps he thought the glass was mirrored to his benefit? I, of course, averted my eyes and went on to the front desk to p/u my mail. While there, I happened to answer the front desk phone, and "Mr. Naked" was calling to request additional towels be sent to his suite. I wondered where the other towels went, as it was obvious he wasn't wearing one!

I always felt bad for the housekeepers - they've probably seen more inappropriate behavior than we'll ever know!

ray a

Congratulations Scott, this post ranks right down there with my finger painting thread. x;-)

I have had reports over the years - maybe 2 or 3 - of this activity happening and I have always just ignored it. We never had a policy on it and no one was getting hurt.

Whatever

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 07-25-03 AT 07:37AM (CST)[/font][p]The neighborhood where this building is located was not for a period of time the best place to be. We use to call our parking lot as hotel that rented by the minute.

ray a

This brought back bad memories of years ago when I had to deal with a boy/girl couple who used to sneak off to the boiler room, dock, and even the rest room stalls and do a little more than hold hands. I never caught them in the act, but then I didn't try too hard.

scottorr

I mentioned this to another HR person in my office and she told me of a story of two contract ees who were caught on the loading dock. We were expecting a delivery so when the driver opened the door he got an eye full. I couldn't imagine even considering doing this at work. I guess we all have our fetishes.

sonny

Forum Fetishes. . now that could be a thread..

Whatever

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 07-25-03 AT 08:53AM (CST)[/font][p]well, as long as they weren't smoking....Or could you say they were "smoking" and therefore in violation of the law.

ray a

Nah, this was back in the mid 80's when it was legal to smoke in the building.

This thread is really dredging up bad memories. We had a supervisor around 1984 who when he turned 30 decided it was time to sow the the wild oats he never did as a kid. Well he and I kind of competed - at least he was always competing with me, I tended to ignore him. He found a girl friend at work and they reputedly "did it" in virtually every room of the 51,000 sq ft building. All after hours of course when he had to lock up for the night - this was on 2nd shift. Well, he would apparently tell the girl friend bad things about me how I was "beating him out" for being the manager's Number One. She decided to get even for him and started leaving death threats on my door step at home. She threatened to kill me, my kids and blow up the building. The scary part was she was leaving them on my front porch with little "tokens" of scrap from work so I would know where it was coming from. Took a while to figure out who, but when the police knocked on her door, she quickly admitted to leaving me the threats.

SDDCHR

There obviously isn't any action you can take! So, no action is the best action. Maybe the guy was just a little constipated?!?!

Shadowfax

CNN just reported the other night that self-abuse may actually be beneficial to preventing prostate cancer. The same report indicated intercourse was not as helpful, alledgedly because of the possibility of infection? Maybe this guy saw the report and was doing his share to keep your health insurance rates low!
I agree it's a serious issue. It's offensive to others, displays seriously poor judgement, and is a waste of e/ers time (unless he was on break I suppose - at my age it would have to be at least a lunch break). But alas, I don't have any brilliant ideas on how to handle it (figuratively speaking of course).

Don D

Scott: Reading your post title, I couldn't wait to see what you were up to today. Now I see and am not sure I'm glad I looked. First, I think you meant "stall" as in toilet cubicle, rather than Stahl, as in CNN's Leslie. I would have responded to the 'interested observer' this way, "Jack, get back to your job," accompanied by a shooing away wave of the hand. Instead, you told the 'casual observer' to 'get a grip'. You're enjoying Friday, aren't you?

mjindra

What I want to know is, where is YUBUDUBADEB, from the other loop? Shouldn't he/she be policing this thread?

Thanks for the laughter this morning, I've been cruising the forum quite heavily this morning and I suddenly feel like I know all of you a little more. It's time to rewrite the handbook at our company and I would never have thought about including anything about "self-abuse" in the handbook. The closest our current handbook gets is referring to "warming up prior to production to help prevent work-related injuries". Maybe this guy was warming up his elbow.

Sorry, I couldn't pass that up . . .

ray a

Melissa, wait a minute... you feel you know us a little bit better after reading our posts on self-abuse? That doesn't sound very good. x;-)

mjindra

It's okay, ray, don't worry, we won't hold it against you. Everybody needs an outlet for their stress . . .

. . . of course I'm talking about chatting on the forum. It reduces stress to laugh out loud. Thanks for making my Friday entertaining!

ray a

You just made me laugh out loud. Worried me for a second.

scottorr

Thank God it's Friday is all I can say!!!!! Your right I did mean stall. Hey, if this guy is trying to reduce the cost of our health benefits, abuse away (post # 14). Thanks for the laughs!

Zanne

I think that your company should provide provide private locking bathrooms for these people who need to perform at work....

You know, we had to supply nursing rooms for lactating mothers who returned to work, why not this??

Tcat

Okay- I have one...and these are TRUE stories. I had a manager who came in to see me one day to say that he had "ummm...an employee that....ummm...was viewing internet porn and pleasing himself AT HIS DESK". I was not sure that I heard him correctly - the cubibles are low wall cubes, anyone can see everything you are doing at any time. Well, apparently this did not bother this employee.

Then two weeks later, we had ANOTHER employee doing the same thing - looking at porn and "pleasing himself" while sitting at his desk.

THEN about a month after that, our security guard walked in on the janitor in the janitor room and he was sitting in a chair with his pants down around his ankles - and she claimed she had walked in on him in the same position the prior week.

Also, I work in a call center where the calls are recorded (for qualitly purposes). One day I come in and a manager approached my with a recorded call and asked me to listen to the call - didn't tell me what the "issue" was. He just said that it was an overnight employee who had taken a call and he wanted my advice on how to handle the call. So I start listening to the call - it started out as an ordinary phone call and soon turned into FULL BLOWN phone sex!!!!!

I swear, just when I say I have seen it all.......

Yahoo

People truly amaze me sometimes....I had an employee come in on a Saturday & run into a co-worker in the hall coming from the direction of her cubicle. When she got to her desk, she found her computer on, evidence of porn sites having been viewed, her lotion bottle opened & sitting out and a wadded pile of used napkins.

I about fell over when I heard this one...... #-o

Rockie

I liked your advice to the employee - especially "get a grip".

Anyway...working in healthcare, you find a lot of dysfunctional behavior, a lot of it sexual in nature.

We had a couple who used to "do it" regularly in the parking garage and construction workers on the upper floors got a "birds eye view".

I also worked in banking where the president and his exec. assistant would "do it" regularly in the board room. He also kept a diary of each "session" with explicit details of what the "doing it" consisted of and he rated it each time. The girlfriend got mad when she found it (I guess the marks weren't too high) and filed a sexual harrassment suit against him. She made a copy of the diary and left the copies in the copy machine. Well, you can JUST imagine what entertainment this provided.

Yep, there are people in all industries who exhibit this type of behavior. At least it provides us some good stories to tell in the Forum!