Same sex benefit question... or maybe not

Here's a twist I didn't see coming...

Employee Sue has been married 20 years to Patrick. About two years ago, Sue and Patrick accept the realization that Patrick was meant to be Patricia. Patrick is nearing the end of his gender reassignment process and will legally change his name to Patricia in a few months.

How will or will not this impact Patrick/Patricia's benefits eligibility as Sue's spouse? He/she is not currently on our medical plan, but has dependent life coverage, FMLA consideration, etc. Maybe it all depends on our state's definition of "spouse", and how that is affected by gender reassignment.

I guess I'm thinking out loud, somewhat... my apologies for that. I've been cautioned to not bring it up with the employee yet, as there are some emotional sensitivities still.

Can anyone here play "minesweeper" for me, and tell me where NOT to step?

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  • Yikes!

    They are already legally married. I don't think surgery will qualify as terminating the marriage, but I could be wrong.

    I wish I had some good advice, but alas, I am too inexperienced in this kind of thing. I hope someone smarter than me chimes in.

    Good luck!

    Nae
  • Wow! I think NaeNae's musing over whether the transgender surgery ends the marriage is a critical question. Second question is - Does your company offer same sex domestic partner benefits? If yes, you shouldn't have a problem continuing benefits in this situation. Please keep the forum posted on how this turns out. I am sure it won't be long befors a similar situation arises somewhere else.
  • We do not currently offer same-sex benefits. This is a highly-valued employee, and if offering s-s benefits would be required down the line to keep her, I'm sure it's something we'd look at. (It would require BofD approval... and our board is VERY conservative.)

    As I mentioned, she is still somewhat uncomfortable discussing the situation. I want to be proactive about it, though - I don't want to have to address the situation when preparing to file for a death benefit, for example.
  • I agree with NaeNae, the couple is still married whether one of them loses their arm or any other appendage. I don't think you have any problem in the near term. I don't think you need to worry too much at this time. I don't even see a need to bring it up to your insurance carrier. As far as the insurance carrier is concerned, Sue & Pat are just another legally married couple. The carrier may think it a little unusual and may ask questions, however, when Patrick (aka Pat) goes to see a gynecolist.

    The issue of marriage should not be in question. A long-term consequence could be the issue of same-sex benefits for other employees that find out you're providing coverage for Pat. But even here, I think the extenuating circumstances would protect you from any legal problems.
  • [font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 02-20-07 AT 11:09AM (CST)[/font][br][br] >the couple is still married
    >whether one of them loses their arm or any other
    >appendage.



    But losing an arm doesn't typically lead to being medically certified as a different gender. Your point about approaching the insurance carrier is well taken - there's no way I'm going to the insurer(s) until I know the answers first.
  • Thankfully... I have not had to deal with this type of situation, but as others have mentioned; please keep us posted as only the Shadow knows what lurks in the heart of man; or woman in this case.
    We are also in the State of Missouri and our policies are written to cover husband and wife based on the State's definition of same. So far in Missouri this means a man and a woman. To me the question is will the State recogonize their marriage when he becomes a she?
    Good luck.
  • Then to really muddy the waters, surgical, cosmetic and a name change will not change his chromozones or DNA. Oh just thinking about all this is giving me a headache. My solution, I will do nothing unless Pat/Patricia and Sue get a divorse. Do any of our legal experts want to answer this?
  • This question hasn't been settled (or even addressed, in a lot of places). I know of at least one case where a court held that chromosomes were "only one factor" in determining sex and stated that gender or self identity was "the true test or identifying mark of sex."

    However, that was in a case where the gender reassignment took place prior to the marriage, whereas in this case, the individuals are legally married prior to the reassignment. They have been married legally; I would think that they will continue to be married absent any affirmative legal action voiding the marriage.

    As far as what you should do, it's not your job to guess what a court would say if the marriage were challenged (I mean, unless this question has been definitively decided in your jurisdiction, but I suspect it hasn't). At this point the marriage has *not* been challenged, and it has *not* been invalidated. As far as you know, they remain married and there has been no legal determination to the contrary. Therefore I would continue to treat the other person as a spouse until there is a more substantial indication to the contrary.
  • I pretty much agree with most of the others here. BUT, I would most definitely discuss this with the insurance carrier. What would happen if Pat dies and a claim is filed. The carrier will then see female listed on the death certificate and deny the claim. So the employee has been paying all along for benefits that are now going to be denied. It's better to know from the start what you're up against rather then just keeping your fingers crossed and hoping for the best.
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