article on S.A.V.E. program?
atrimble
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Don't ask me how I got signed up for the free newsletter, but I did find a link to an article that looks like Pork's S.A.V.E. program, though they call it the "Basic Pilot Program." I'm always looking for more information when it comes to verifying "too good to be true" things, especially when they're sponsored by the government (whoops, did I just say that out loud?!).
[url]http://www.diversityinc.com/public/17099.cfm[/url]
-Abby
[url]http://www.diversityinc.com/public/17099.cfm[/url]
-Abby
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I have screenshots of the SAVE Pile of Crap where I have "verified" Mickey Mouse using a citizen's SSN and fake A# of 12345789.
I'm glad it's working for some, but realize it is just a false safety blanket. To tout this system as anything else is simply assinine.
I would almost be OK if pOrK said something to the effect of "for those who wish to continue hiring illegals and wish to do so with Government sanction, there is a new system that will verify the info you need to remain under the radar". Instead, he pontificates his mumbo jumbo about SAVE and the FOREIGN NATIONALS that he kicks out of his office daily and sends to his local DHS office for DATABASE corrections.
Sorry for the rant. I'm having a bad day.
Gene
I have not hired nor fired any employee based on the SAVE program. I have hired, placed, all employees to work and then received the authorization document from the government, which provides a written document which is attached to the I-9 that the employee and I completed in accordance with DOL procedures and our company policy.
I have accomplished this with every employee regardless of nationality or citizenship. I have 100% success of processing I-9s and employees authorized to work in our country. I have also 100% success at identifying employees that have a mis-match with I-9 data/information provided by the individual and the data that is or may not be on the governmental data banks.
We have identified 2 employees that were foreign national and one that was a US Citizen. All three were sent to the appropriate government agency in which there was a mis-match of I-9 information.
1)The US Citizen came back to us with a document that identified the specific mis-match information on the I-9; we pulled the suspension and sent the individual back to work and paid him for his time waisted for it was our error in the first place with an error in the sequence of the SSNs, placed on the I-9. We made the correction on the I-9 and our employment records and re-submitted the SAVE information and the non-confirmed response from the SAVE program was resolved and we then received the authorized to employee document.
2)The two foreign nationals were, likewise, suspended and sent to the appropriate agency. They simply did not return and after the 8 day period, given in written format, they were appropriately terminated IAW our company policy on absent situations.
Again, I have a document for each step taken under the SAVE program; no person can accuse this company of discrimination in our hiring procedures as it pertains to the I-9 process.
As a professional HR, I remember well, when the I-9 came on-board and we had no way to validate any document provided by the employee as proof of his/her right to work in our country. TN HR can stick his head in the lettuce pile and continue to stand behind the "un-real belief" that the documents provided by his employees in the produce fields or the loading docks are 100% valid just because they look right.
We can do better than that now, we can check the data provided on the I-9 and validate the data regardless of the document provided to the HR person, as proof of the valid nature of the the I-9 information.
PORK
P.S. The BBQ pork dinner for the hurricane evac's was a success! It is amazing how the large numbers are now moving out of shelters rapidly and into more permanent situations homes are being opened locally and the numbers remaining in the dorms will soon be zero. That is wonderful news! Thanks to all out there that were and are continuing to support the coast. New Orleans will not be the same for a long while and the beaches and gambling facilities will be much reduced for a while.
And you can stick your head up a fat sow's arse and continue believing the fairy tale that you are somehow above board because you use SAVE. You still have more illegals than I do.
We will soon I hope will be told how to handle these 5 year old applications for which the government has put on hold until our government decides what to do. Before Katrina, it looked like the temporary work permit was going to move us to a finish.
None the less pull your head out of the lettuce pile and smell the roses that is presented with the SAVE Program. you will be welcome with friendly arms.
PORK
PORK
You've boasted that President Bush has called you into active duty to implement SAVE. You've also boasted about having "talks" with the President. I mean, c'mon, POrK, do you really believe all this fairy tale stuff? Do you really think anyone else buys this crap? Give me a break!
It is interesting indeed that you say you are aware that you have illegals. It is also interesting that you told me in a private message eight months ago that your corporate owner told you to let them lay low and not mess with them in anticipation that Bush may grant them some sort of amnesty. This is a violation of federal law, regardless of S.A.v.e and all the rhetoric. Knowingly employing illegals is a federal crime. Period.
Have I spoken to President Bush myself, no; have I received a letter from his office encouraging me as a team player of SAVE, yes. I never said that I had a personal verbal conversation; those original words were tagged to me and I accept them as confident that the President and his staff want the employer to use SAVE. Without it we HRs are on our own. I highly recommend you check SAVE out and sign up for the program.
Please remember that it does not give you authority to hire anyone, nor does it give you the authority to weed anyone out of the hiring process. It does allow you to input the I-9 information and receive guidance on what you, as the HR that has hired someone with mis-matched information, is to do at that point in the hiring process.
I have asked the SAVE staff to input Mickey Mouse and any ssn into the system and list the documents associated and to see if they get back an authorization to hire. They did and were not able to do it. So there is something more to TN HR story that we are allowed to know. It makes no difference to me whether it worked for him and his purposes or not. The SAVE program has been 100% available to me and I feel comfortable in knowing that the employees, I have hired have validated I-9s on file in my office. The foreign nationals that have come on-board sense starting SAVE are validated and enjoying great job opportunities with our company.
PORK
Enough said.
PORK