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Only for the sake of clarification will I respond. Employers have the right to set dress code policies. My position remains that banning braids and locks targets Blacks with natural (as in not chemically straightened) hair, and does not properly a…
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It makes absolutely no difference if the owner banning locks or braids is a Black woman or a Jamaican man -- no one racial group has the exclusive trait of being narrowminded. All of us (speaking of Western society in particular) are programmed to …
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Natural -- as I am using it, only refers to chemically untreated hair, so that the kinky texture is unchanged. I still style and "dress" my hair -- and my body, too. There is room in this discussion to consider and correct the very valid groomin…
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Don, you singled yourself out with the summation, and I used your name; but my post was intended as a general statement to indicate that business owners/companies and HR professionals must be prepared to rethink this subject. I have found this thre…
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While I always strive for consensus because that is my dominant style -- in this matter, Don, I would see you in court. That is how strongly I view this issue.
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Believe me I do understand! Locks and Braids (when banned by an organization's policy) does have to do with the styles worn primarily by Afro-Americans. To refuse to accept that premise and to address the few whites who wear locks, and everyone wh…
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Don, a policy of banning natural hair (styled in braids or locks) is stepping beyond the purview of the company no matter the race of the originator. In my mind, it has to do with accepting a racial characteristic. None of us are immune from havin…
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Okay, I am exhaling now. To 5560905,LA - you came to the forum requesting feedback on an issue of concern in your workplace. Perhaps you can tell from the postings that your situation is more complex than simply "grooming" standards. We all bring …
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Well besides the fact that they won't let me in the hotel with my locked hair, I surely would not stay there or eat there. They could not possibly have time to give me proper service -- what with policing every root color, hair style and ear ring. …
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Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about. LOL. Sometimes we call them sausage-headed, but I guess that is not nice. Some more adventureous types let the locks form in what I call "free style". These are usually your more artistic fine arts…
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The term "natural hair" to those of African descent means that you do not alter the naturally occurring "nappy/kinky" texture with chemicals. One of the primary styles worn by those with natural hair would be braids. Natural hair is capable of "lo…
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Yep, I have seen that too. Why not deal with the issue of neat and acceptable appearance, but not with locked or braided hair. Why would it be considered extreme? Who says? There is no way of really knowing that the employees want to push the en…
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Natural hair is hair whose texture has not been altered with chemicals. Braids would be a hair style -- there are all kinds. Locks/locked, etc., is a way of wearing natural hair that avoids combs/brushes, etc. It can be trained into "locks" by tw…
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"The point is the image the owner wants to establish. No one has indicated that locks are unprofessional. It is just not the look, the impression, the public image, the portrayal he wishes to present to his customers and clients. That is his prefera…
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Rita, Perhaps I was not as clear as I could have been. My point is that that professionals (and those preparing for the professions of my personal acquaintance) wear locks. There is nothing inherently unprofessional about them. Safety equipment,…
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Now you just knew I would jump into this one -- didn't you? If anyone told me I could not wear my natural hair locked, I would tell them to take their job and . . . Locked hair is not quite the same as braided hair. Your policy does not appear to…
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Turbo, you are making it more complicated than it has to be. Please reread all the responses and you will see that the case is (almost) simple. Deal with the current performance issue of the 50 year old worker. The first employment/termination wi…
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"They have retained an attorney who sent us a letter and asked that any conversation about the EEOC charge needs to go through their office instead of straight to the employee. Do we need to follow that" YES "or can we discuss the matter with o…
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Guess their replacement job fell through, huh? My (unwritten) policy, based on experience, is not to allow rescission of resignations. Let the person GO! Especially if there are performance issues -- take advantage of the circumstances. That b…
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I sure agree with Don on this one. The poster is not responsive to the questions asked on the forum (what is your position in HR, etc.); also why are all of the posts shown as 29 total posts. Doesn't it click over everytime you post?
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If the manager is not performing the job adequately -- that should be dealt with regardless of the cause. It is not unusual for those running for public office to take a leave of absence while they campaign. Sounds like that should happen in this …
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Let me out! Let me out!
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Hey, LV's not busy -- let's hire 'em.
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 04-08-04 AT 09:55AM (CST)[/font][br][br]Yeah, Ray. Don is a very clever fellow -- so he can work for me and control the whole darn company. I'm off to California with Gillian -- could use the sunshine.…
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Hey -- what about me? As the only AAAF (well, I guess I don't really know that), let's make sure I have a cushy up-front position. Let's see, I am really good at seeing all sides, so maybe I had better balance out Ritaanz. My title will be Chief …
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 04-07-04 AT 11:59AM (CST)[/font][br][br]I too enjoy the forum. While I may not post as often as some, I have gained valuable insight by reading posts from others, and I enjoy sharing when I feel my impu…
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. . . and miss all this fun! No way. Seriously, I learn a lot when these issues get unmasked.
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Well I am not an HR newbie and the AAF and the Martin remark went right over my head. Guess I had better give up my AAAF (Authentic African American Female) status. What a ridiculous posting for a first time forum poster. After rereading the orig…
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Was wondering what the HR department consists of in your organization. Don has given you the usual HR role and Larry has stressed how vital it is to be (fore)armed with documentation and facts rather than a lot of ranting and raving. So you really…