Employee Interview

I have not posted in a while, but, maybe some of you will remember me! While I was on vacation in Europe an applicant was interviewed by two of my co-workers. Apparently, this applicant volunteered the information that she had a larceny conviction in her work history (14 years previously) she also said which state this occured in. She told this to one of the people who interviewed her, but, not the other person. This applicant was offered the position. Upon my return this past week I have been hit with this situation.

What would you do to handle this?
Thanks for the feed back.

scorpio

p.s. A policy has been drafted regarding exactly WHO is allowed to extend a job offer, too late for this one though!

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  • It's a little late now to train people on how to interview and when to make an offer. So, the matter is at hand. Are you the decision-maker when it comes to hiring? Have you ever withdrawn an offer? We make a conditional offer then begin the background work. If something comes up in the background,like theft, we withdraw the offer. Your situation is a little different in that the offer was made even though the interviewer knew of the theft. I don't see why you can't contact the applicant and withdraw. There may be other twists to this one, but I think that's what I'd do. There are many others here wiser than I am. I'm anxious to see this thread expand.
  • Larceny is the unlawful taking of personal property. It can be grand larceny or petty larceny and while I don't really know where the line is between the two, I would want to know more about this person's crime.

    It was 14 years ago, which is quite a bit of time - perhaps this person learned his/her lesson and has moved on to become a productive member of society.

    Is the job such that you would have concerns regarding someone with this criminal history? Consider personally interviewing this individual before withdrawing the offer, but let them know you are considering it. With a 14 year old conviction, it is extremely likely that this person has had more than one job in the meantime. Call previous employers and ask them if they were aware of the conviction and did they have any problems?

    I believe in giving people 2nd chances. If we do not, are we just telling this person that there are no jobs out there and either go on welfare, live in the streets, or renew your life of crime?
  • Marc, I wasn't implying that we should not give people second chances. I didn't mean it to come off that way. We are a public entity and will never hire a person with a theft in their background. Everything owned by the city is public property; owned by taxpayers. A few years ago the former HR director hired a person who had been convicted of welfare fraud. The person had 'reformed' and was a born-again Christian. We fired her at the tune of losing $43,000 of taxpayers money through embezzlement.
  • Hi Shirley, I did not think that - just putting my opinion out there, which I view as another facet of the ways a person can look at these things.

    There is a reason ERs shy away from hiring people with a criminal record. The recidivism rate is way up there - I think in the 90 percentiles.

    I know the people that rip you off the worst are the people you trust. And I don't at all recommend anyone with a record whom you do not deeply interview - an in-depth character assessment is in order, more so than for potential EEs that do not carry this baggage.

    I do think there are folks out there that can reform, see the light, etc. I also believe it takes a lightning strike of some sort for people to change. This kind of lightning comes in all kinds of disguises. A criminal conviction is one such potential disguise.

    I wonder at the percentage of "first time" criminals that we all hire. Obviously way lower than the recidivism rate of those with a record. We make the best decisions we can with the information we have, but in cases like these, the person making the decision to hire, in spite of the baggage, is taking a chance. If I were going to be accountable for taking the chance, I would not do it without looking the person in the eye, assessing what I see in there, and also listening to my "gut feel."

    If I decided to go ahead, I would keep a very close eye on this person.

  • Maybe I'm becoming cynical; but I hope I've not become incompassionate. Most of the time when I see the theft conviction, I believe it's not the only time they've stolen someting. It's the only time they've been caught. They've probably stolen before that and maybe even afterwards. My cynical side believes they are not trustworthy even with an ink pen. I know if he can't be trusted with a small thing, I wouldn't entrust him with anything larger. Sometimes I get that 'gut feel' too when an applicant is very urgent about the fact he's changed, but I pass them up and go on to the next candidate.
  • Whenever I admit to cynicism, I deny it and call it realism.

    OK, so that the record is clear - I am very cynical. And while I am somehow also optimistic and full of hope in general terms, I often have a very low opinion of people. Perhaps that helps explain why I am so mixed up most of the time!

    In any event, that feeling you are relying on is one that cuts both ways. I am with you - if I feel I cannot trust a person - then I pass.

    I am confident that the gut feeling I am talking about does not manifest for any of the "protected" title VII folks.

    Just because I am paranoid does not mean they are not out to get me!/:)
  • Agree with Sam, we also make conditional offers and stress to the candidate that the offer is conditioned upon successful completion of a background check. Also, do you ask whether or not the individual has a felony conviction on your employment application? How did they answer the question? If they said "no" you have them on misrepresentation and you can rescind the offer. However, you may have to just sit the candidate down and tell them that based upon the disclosure of her conviction (which, I assume, will be confirmed by a background check), you have no choice but to rescind the offer of employment.

    That having been said, it would be helpful to know precisely what the position is for which the applicant is being considered - is it a position for which you would not hire someone with a record? And it was 14 years ago, do you take that into account?

    Fortunately, as a private employer we are not held to the same standard as public employers and can consider those with felony convictions. Some of the best workers we have are work-release people (not to mention the tax breaks that come with hiring them).


  • Maybe I'm delusional, but, didn't your last return from this same trip find that somebody at your workplace had hired a medical technician whom you would not have hired? Is this becoming a pattern?
  • OOps, yes, you are exactly right LivinDon. It is making me a little nervous about going away ever again! And yes, this is the same person I have had countless bad hr decisions come from. Thats the bad news. The good news is she has been taken out of the loop with employee's and hopefully, this is the last I have to deal with these situations.

    As things have played out, I decided to re-hire an ex ee for the position that was offered to this person with the larceny conviction. While I can certainly appreciate that people change, it felt too much to my "gut" like some type of ploy.
    Thanks for the input.

    scorpio

  • Are you saying the person making the bad HR decisions was doing this as a ploy? Trying to saddle you with a lemon? Or is the candidate running some sort of con game?

    I confess to confusion.
  • For what it's worth - here's my 2 cents.
    In general, if the applicant had not volunteered the information, most criminal background checks only go back 7 years - not 14, so you would not have known that information if she hadn't volunteered it, and being up front about it is a point in her favor. How many have hired, and possibly fired, someone when you found out after they were hired they "forgot" to list convictions on their applications?

    Also, one of the guidelines we use is where is she working? If she was convicted of welfare fraud and was hired for A/P or audit - that's a problem. If she was convicted of welfare fraud and was hired as an admin asst or call center employee - less liability. Weigh the conviction against the position.
  • Maybe a better way to judge it is to see if the organization she defrauded would hire her. If they weighed her infraction against her time served and the passage of time, would they hire her or rehire her? It is also probably proven many times over that 'the gut' offers the soundest advice.

    I never will forget the candidate who told me last year that the 'non-adjudicated conviction' he discussed with me was for placing a bomb threat with his previous employer when he became disgruntled. He probably hasn't done it since and won't ever again. But, he won't get a chance to do it HERE.
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